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Offline Red

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Fingerlings...stocking groups
« on: Tue 14 May 10:55 2019 »
Guys like Ray might be onto this, but we're after fingerlings to stock dams. 'Anyone suggest someone? or a group..


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Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
« Reply #1 on: Tue 14 May 15:21 2019 »
G'day Red,

I think Rayke might be the best person for this, he has a lot contacts and most likely can steer you in the right direction.

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    Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
    « Reply #2 on: Tue 14 May 19:51 2019 »
    Where are you wishing to stock and what species?
    For yellas,bass,silvers , murrays and  marys the PRFMA and some other stocking groups use Hanwood Hatchery near Murgon. Honest ,ethical and well priced. Give Max or Dierdre a ring and have a chat they are full of info and advice and also welcome visitors to the hatchery with prior notice.
    link to their website  https://hanwoodfishhatchery.com.au

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    Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
    « Reply #3 on: Wed 15 May 06:23 2019 »
    G'day Ray, and thanks for your valued input.
    There are 4 dams on the place, plus a creek that flows around it - already sighted silvers in there.
    We plan to install a large dam and it's this one we are planning fish for. I will be manning a stall at primex this week/end and will speak to the DPI guys there also about their suggestions. Silvers and bass are along the lines of what I was thinking, with gudgeons and rainbows to complement( aka feed) them in a catchment with no shade or immediate structure.
    'might have to roll a few old tyres down the hill - into the dam and similar!
    I'll give Hanwood a call, - ta

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    Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
    « Reply #4 on: Wed 15 May 22:08 2019 »
    Hi Red,

    Fish stocking of certain species depends on where your dam is and what drainage division it falls under.

     I stocked my small dam with silver perch as they are well suited to the farm dam environment and when adding further fingerlings the adults will not predate on the new fish.

    Silver perch take floating fish food pellets and will be waiting daily at the same spot for a feed once a habit is formed if you choose to feed them. Silver perch have the best chance of evading a shag or cormorant also. Bass and yellas will eat anything smaller than themselves.

    I would give a dam 12months after filling to mature before adding fish, in that time adding aquatic plants, shrimps and fish to provide a food chain.

    Providing structure is a great idea , I would also plan a mesh wire fence or barrier so during overflow events your stock does not escape.

    I got my fingerlings from Pipers creek hatchery near Kempsey for $1 each. Another good outlet is Abbington aquaculture at Childers. There are plenty around and most have good websites and information on the subject. If you can avoid paying freight costs most outlets are happy to include you if they are doing a delivery run.

    I put old pipes and drums in my dam that sit tied to besser blocks.

    Sounds like you will have a good setup in time.

    Cheers Steve.

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    Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
    « Reply #5 on: Thu 16 May 11:11 2019 »
    Dam fish structure ideas

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    Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
    « Reply #6 on: Thu 16 May 12:31 2019 »
    Thanks for that Steve,
    At days end, it's water for stock..not fish. I have to adhere to that priority. I may still pump from a nearby bore to water trees and crops, but this/ these catchments are for the moo-ey things .
    The current dams will flow into this one should they overflow, and this one will spill over lower paddocks before entering the upper Richmond catchment some few hundred metres away.
    Advice from the DPI will influence my choices and restrictions.

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    Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
    « Reply #7 on: Wed 29 May 09:30 2019 »
    G'day Red,

    Mate if you are going to use tyres, (which I see as a last resort) make sure they are old tractor or truck tyres as these are the ONLY tyres that are made from natural rubber, all others are synthetic compounds and can release toxins into the water.  This is the reason why we have such large accumulation of tyres at sites around the country, the newer tyres are not so easy to recycle.  Old milk crates randomly linked together or old concrete pipes are also good as are old rolls of fencing wire or lengths of fencing that been pulled out.  For nesting beds, a few old bales of hay dropped on top of each other have also proven worthwhile structure but noting beats some old tree stumps and rocks, both on the lesser gradient -  - stock access banks and on the steeper - main wall- banks.

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    Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
    « Reply #8 on: Thu 30 May 19:30 2019 »
    Main dam is yet to be dug, and then there's at least a years wait to settle before I can stock it.
    'Spoke to a bloke from Narrabri fish farm at Primex and he reckons a stack of 3 hay bales here and there helps with filtration and makes the water sweeter, also makes for nesting sites.
    The tyres in question are very old Olympic tractor tyres...maybe at least 50 years old. Previous owner was growing spuds in them as raised garden beds. 'Just flipped them over with front forks every 6 months, he reckons.
    The Narrabri bloke uses large dia. poly pipe cut to a foot or so long , just dropped randomly in the dam for hidey-holes.
    Milk crates?....clever idea...I know where there's a few dozen dumped!

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    Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
    « Reply #9 on: Sun 2 Jun 13:27 2019 »
    I stocked my small dam with bass. Then someone told the shags about them. Nearly ate the bloody lot until I trained the dog to chase them. The rest made it to just about plate size and along comes a flood to wash most of them away.
    After the flood comes a drought that dried up the bore and dropped the water level and it got too warm. Last of the bass floated to the top belly up.
    Then my little mate died and the shags are back in full force cleaning up everything that's left. About 6 million guppies.
    I gave up.

    Ducks, guppies, eels and the occasional turtle only now, although the neighbour has put a few native 'things' in there that I've yet to see.
    Hope you have better luck.
    Cheers
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    Re: Fingerlings...stocking groups
    « Reply #10 on: Sun 2 Jun 20:54 2019 »
    Yeah milk crates are like fencing wire etc, the smll fish get cover the bigger predators can't get in and weed grows on it... happy days....  also look at some of the floating solar pumps going on the net... especially during the "settle in" period, extra oxygen is super beneficial  once system is established if the cheap china solar pumps die... no problem.. purpose served

     


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